Member John-Erik
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James Marsen, David de H, everybody.
Take a look.
John-Erik
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file:///C:/Users/John-Erik/Downloads/Aberration%20and%20Sagnac%20effect%20in%20PDF.pdf
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I try again
https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Essays-Relativity%20Theory/Download/8779
John-Erik
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Dear James. Thanks for answer. I regard Dr Su’s work as important but not complete, since he does not explain gravity.
However, you seems not to understand my ideas completely, since I do not use Lorentz transform and not time dilation. Instead I use Galilean transform and my contraction of matter is 2 times the contraction in SRT. My contraction is not ad hoc, but motivated by 2 anti-parallel forces moving between atoms for controlling spacing between atoms. These forces are assumed to be dependent on ether wind in the same way as 2 forces moving between mirrors in MMX. This means no observable effect in the meassuring arm.
In the reference arm there is no effect, since transverse ether wind cannot tilt a wave front.
Therefore, it is not possible to detect second order Sagnac effect of ether wind in MMX.
These tests failed for 140 years and should be disregarded.
Doing MMX in space is expensive although there are other tests even more expensive.
However, second order Sagnac effect can explain the Pioneer anomaly by the radial ether wind from the Sun, equal to the escape velocity. The 2-way speed of light is increasing with range and creates an illusion of decreased space station speed. This effect can easily be calculated, and found to be in agreement to observations.
John-Erik
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James
I said earlier that I should come back with a short description of my ideas.
Space is the container and ether is the content. If the container is empty it has no properties. The content can be quantized into fast and small particles as Fatio said about quantized gravity 300 years ago. They seem to be neutrino-like and passing our bodies, as we can feel in gravity. Planck’s quanta are based on matter in the form of electrons observed in a photodetector. We experience the effect of neutrinos in gravity.
My theory is like Su’s model except that also gravity is explained, and the content must explain gravity also. If matter attenuates the omnidirectional flow, less particles coming from below in relation to the number of paricles that are coming from above. So, gravity is a small difference between pushing and pulling gravity. The ether wind is moving in negative radial direction. Light travels down faster than up, as I said in GED July 1999.
By assuming a radial ether wind equal to the escape velocity from the Sun we find that 2-way light speed is increasing with distance to the Sun at the edge of our solar system. This increase can simulate a decrease in Pioneer space station speed, and explain the anomaly as a measurement error.
What do you think about my article The scandalous Sagnac effect? I state that Sagnac effect explains VLBI aberration.
Best regards from ________ John-Erik
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James marsen
- VLBI aberration is explained by the Sagnac effect and this proves an existing ethet.
- A radial ether wind equal to the escape velocity can explain Pioneer anomaly and also cause the force of gravity.
What do you think?
John-Erik
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James
Thank you for spreading info about the important works of Prof C C Su (also on RG). I agree to most of it. However, I have a theory that goes one step further and also explains gravity by means of a radial ether wind. My ideas are described in an article called The wave-particle dilemma in light as you can find at:
PHYSICS ESSAYS 34, 2 (2021)
I will come back here with a short summary of it.
John-Erik
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I was blocked for more files to CNPS so I sent a link to Research Gate.
Direct to a PDF is possible vie GSJournal. See the link below.
https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Research%20Papers/View/8719
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I am sorry to find that no one of CNPS’s 80 members will discuss Sagnac effect with me.
In my opinion VLBI is the perfect tool for detecting the Sagnac effect. We have 2 perfectly synchronized clocks in opposite sides of our planet, and the motion along the line between the clocks is 30 km/s. This explains VLBI aberration equal to stellar aberration.
Ron disproved SRT, but he failed to give a correct alternative to VLBI aberration.
It is very bad that no one will discuss this important issue.
John-Erik
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The ether can cause gravity by having an ether wind blowing in the negative radial direction. We have been compleyely blind to this possibility by always meassuring light speed in a horizontal direction. We can explain the effects of SRT and GRT on atomic clocks by the ether wind instead. We get the correct results with a radial ether wind equal to the escape velocity.
In radial direction we also get a second order effect leading to an increase in 2-way light speed. This decrease can simulate a decrease in space station speed. The Pioneer anomaly can therefore be a measurement error.
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James
MMX is a second order Sagnac effect, as Dr Su said. First order effect is compensated, as you said. I say that second order effect is also compensated, due to a length contraction equal to 2 times the FitzGerald contraction, since 2 forces moving in antiparallel directions are controlling atomic separations. Therefore, change due to 2 forces moving in antiparallel directions between mirrors in MMX are compensated. So, MMX is a useless method, not fulfilling prediction. The results from 140 years of MMX testing should be disregarded and not be interpreted as a negation of the prediction. A scandal should not be repeated in a satellite to an enormous amount of money.
A radial ether wind from the Sun, equal to the escape velocity, can explain the Pioneer anomaly and affect light moving radially. Gravity potential affects light moving in all directions.
Sagnac effect of first order has been regarded as disributed along a line, l, or as over a surface, A, according to mathematics: lv=Aw. However a physics phenomenon can only have one distribution, and the fiberoptic gyroscope proves distribution along a line, that must not be closed. Therefore, Sagnac 1913, GPS every day and VLBI, all 3, prove the same as MMX could not do, and never will.
John-Erik
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James
GPS is symmetric with all satellites at the same altitude. So, the same radial error in all data. I do not see how ypu can regard GPS as contradicting.
My article to PHYSICS ESSAYS contains many arguments for radial ether wind. One is that gravity is explained.
Regards ______________ John-Erik
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David
In your opinion I am:
- not able to change my mind. I have changed my mind regarding VLBI, since Hatch’s explanation is in conflict with the principle of equivalence and also that the change in ether wind is detected by 1-way Sagnac effect described in my last article, since it is very clear that VLBI is sensitive to the state of motion of the reference frame. Which is proved by the Scandalous… It seems as you have not changed mind regarding VLBI.
- arrogant in your opinion, although I have been strict in just talking about physics, and your arguments are regarding my mind, and not my theory. This can of course be provocing since my theory is in many points different from yours, and have to be thinking on my integrety.
- pushy in your opinion, but this is also a property of my mind that you know very little about. However, in just one sense I my be regarded as pushy, and that is regarding the high number of articles I have sent to CNPS. But that problem is solved now since I am not allowed to send more files.
These points are related to my mind and still offer you to point out one example where i am wrong in my theory.<div>
Regards ___________ John-Erik
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David
Thanks for mail
You said nothing about my article, and instead you attacked me personally, and said that I could not change my mind. You have no right to say so, since you have never with a single word tried to change my opinion. You will not discuss with me and state that this is not needed. You should be willing to discuss with opponents since there is a very small chance that someone will change opinion. Discussions with supporters will never lead to a change.
You said that mainstream will not talk to you. So, in the same way you will not talk to me because I disprove your guru Hatch regarding VLBI. So, I am a dissident in relation to dissidents.
I have written about 4 articles per year for many years, and that is all I can do in hope of finding respons. I have never got a single review. I have also tried the blog and all so called ‘comments’ mention the article only in the first sentence and then they start preaching other religions and also adding links. I have tried all the directors also. Last one was Nick Percival and he promised debate. So, I sent reviews regarding Steven Bruant and Ron Ward and one more. However I got nothing back and his motivation was that he was not qualified.
You talk good words about ‘critical thinkers’ but what is reality? About 20 members have presented theories often explaining everything and having a name of their own. Most of them are only wishful thinking. Very few people write reviews and therefore almost all of these articles just disappear into a dark hole. I stated that Ray Gallucci could perhaps be regarded as a critical thinker, since he writes about articles from other members. However, he protested and said that he had no ambition to be regarded as a critical thinker.
So, the result of many articles and many blogs is not a single review and not a single effort to chang my opinion from 80 members and 7 directors.
John-Erik
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David
The Scanda<i style=”font-weight: bold;”>lous Sagnac effect:
Scientists have explained the Sagnac effect in 2 ways:
- A translation integrated along a line.
- A rotation integrated over a surface.
These 2 descriptions are equal in mathematics, but scientists have not observed that in physics only the first one is valid, as we can see in the case where light is locked in inside a fiber. I have stated so in a number of articles to CNPS and no one has protested.<div>
This means that Sagnac’s result can be generalized to a straight line.
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VLBI:
VLBI is the most perfect tool for testing general Sagnac effect. Communication between 2 stations separeted by the diameter of planet Tellus with the speed c takes 42 milliseconds. The orbiting speed of Tellus is 10^-4 times c. Therefore, propagation time is changed by orbiting speed an amount of +/- 4.2 microseconds. You cannot find a more clear verification of the Sagnac effect. Hatch was right about Einstein, but wrong about VLBI.
So, for gaining correct results in VLBI scientists have to stop Tellus in its orbit and pretend zero speed in relation to Sun, since they do not understand the Sagnac effect.
Test if I can change opinion:
You can read my article “The Scandalous Sagnac Effect” (it is only 2 pages) and point out only one point where I am wrong and you want me to change opinion.
Question:
Who is it that cannot change opinion?
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