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  • Salih

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    April 3, 2024 at 10:34 pm

    Hi Jerry,

    I don’t know what ether is. That’s why I can’t say anything. I meant glass jar with lid. ‘An etherist might argue that ether would pass through glass.’ It’s a very easy thing to suggest. The hard part is to prove it. If ether passes through glass, it should not be in the form of mass and energy as we know it. Heat and light, which are forms of energy, pass through the glass. The degree of heat can be measured. The frequency of light can be calculated. If ether passes through glass, something about it must be measurable. I really don’t know where the ether is, whether it’s in space or somewhere else. Because there is no data regarding its existence.

    In my opinion, it should not exist because the existence of ether would complicate the simple laws of physics. But if etherists prove conclusively the existence of ether, I will have great respect for them. Proving the existence of ether is the job of etherists who claim that it exists.

    ‘I think anything you read or whoever you hear talking about ether may give you a different opinion or answer than another etherist might believe.’ you say. You are quite right. because as I explained in my previous article, ‘ If etherists really believe that ether exists everywhere, then the situation is even worse. It is everywhere, but no one can see it, measure it, weigh it or hold it. It’s like a riddle.

    Even though the ether exists in space, it does not slow down the speed of objects due to friction. Then it doesn’t have any mass or energy. It’s not light, it’s not an electromagnetic wave. Because it cannot be measured, seen or weighed in any way. We cannot perceive what it is like. I say again, etherists must prove this. The claim that length reduction is due to physical interaction is unrealistic. Physical interaction occurs between two concrete objects. Gravitational force with mass, energy mass, light mass, etc. What concrete evidence is there of ether?

    I wrote about the constancy of the speed of light on my CNPS page. If you wish, I will find them and share them with you.

  • Salih

    Member
    April 5, 2024 at 9:40 pm

    Sorry Jerry, I forgot to answer this question.


    For light, there is no difference between an accelerating object and a stationary object. For example, if B is accelerating relative to A, then A is accelerating relative to B. Let’s suddenly remove A from space. For B, speed and acceleration do not matter. Now B is stoping. And vice versa.

  • Salih

    Member
    April 5, 2024 at 9:26 pm

    Hi Jerry,

    In my opinion, when we say space, we need to perceive space as a whole with the basic elements I have listed.

    Yes Galileo’s principle of relativity.

    I don’t know any 100% accurate evidence about the constancy of the speed of light, other than what I’ve explained.

    Because let there be only objects A and B in space. (Let there be one observer at object A and one observer at object B).

    If A and B are approaching each other, the person in A will see that he is approaching B and that B is stationary. Likewise, the person in B will see that he is getting closer to A and that A is stable. When we remove one of the objects A and B from space, the speed no longer matters and what remains in space remains. When we send a ray of light from A to B, let’s imagine for a moment that B is not in space. For the light ray, A stands. Let’s assume we instantly put B into space. The observer at A already saw B as standing still. For this reason, it leaves A, which is stationary, at a speed of 300000 km/s relative to the light, and 300000 km/s is measured in B, which appears stationary.

    The light ray sees each space object as if it were standing individually.

    Since light rays consist of energy, they are affected by gravitational fields and deviate slightly. The speed of light is close to 300000 km/s in empty space. The speed of light rays passing through gravitational fields and media such as water or glass slows down slightly. However, as soon as it returns to space, it reaches its old speed again.

  • Salih

    Member
    April 5, 2024 at 11:47 am

    Hi Jerry,

    ‘Energy mass and light mass’ I think there was a translation error. I have listed the basic elements that make up space. Namely, Empty space, relative velocities between masses and energies, constant speed of light c. Gravitational fields caused by energy, centrifugal force balancing them and time being equal to the amount of energy. Other physical events occur depending on these basic elements.

    Our previous correspondence in CNPS regarding the constancy of the speed of light.

    Dear Jerry,

    As we know, speeds are a relative law of nature. Let’s say it’s just the two of us in space. If we’re getting close to each other, we’ll never know. Are you approaching me? Am I getting closer to you or are we getting closer to each other? Or are you following me faster as I move away from you? We will never know this. If one of us leaves space, speed will no longer matter to the remaining person and will be at a standstill. As we approach each other in space, the ray of light coming from you to me will come out at 300,000 km/s and will see me as standing still. Likewise, the ray of light coming from me to you will come out at 300,000 km/s and will see you as standing still.

    Here I come to the following conclusion; All the planets, stars and objects in space seem to stand still for the ray of light that comes out at a speed of 300,000 km/s from its source. The speed of light seems to be constant.

    Salih

    Simple explanation of the constancy of the speed of light

    Let there be only an object of mass A and an object of mass B in space. Let them speedly approach each other and vice versa. As soon as we send a ray of light from the object with mass A to B, let’s remove the object with mass A from space. Mass B will now appear to be standing still for the ray of light. Velocities in space exist between objects. But for the ray of light they are immobile.

    Dear Marko, Thanks.

    Objects A and B in space are accelerating towards or away from each other. As soon as we send a ray of light from object A to object B, let’s remove object A from space. For the ray of light, object B will still appear to be standing still. Here, the accelerated motion of the A and B objects or their uniform linear motion does not change the result for the ray of light. If the ray of light passes through the gravitational field of B object, it will deviate somewhat. This will negligibly affect the speed of the ray of light.

    Best regards

    Salih

    Thanks..

  • Salih

    Member
    April 2, 2024 at 3:42 am

    Dear Jerry,

    Thank you for your thought-provoking and mind-opening questions.

    First of all, those who claim the existence of the ether must prove it. The claimant must prove his claim. Because the theories they create rise on the ether foundation. If there is no ether, there is no foundation. The building (theory) has collapsed. Just as the Michelson-Morley experiment did not find a difference in the speed of light rays moving in opposite directions within the ether, those who defend the ether need to find a concrete experiment to the contrary.

    No I am not kidding. An astronaut can open the door of a closed glass jar in space, hold it for a while, then close it tightly and bring it to the world. After all, if there is an alleged ether, he must have something that can be measured. For example, its mass, its smell, perhaps its color, or just its extremely small energy. If etherists really believe that ether exists everywhere, then the situation is even worse. It is everywhere, but no one can see it, measure it, weigh it or hold it. It’s like a riddle.

    If there is an ether, there will definitely be a slowdown in the speed of objects subject to the principle of inertia over a very long period of time.

    Yes I agree with you. Most of the answers to the rational questions you ask will end in disagreement with each other. Although I have thought a lot about this issue, I have not yet found a concrete experiment to prove the existence of the ether. I hope especially etherists achieve this.

    In my opinion, it is the magnificence of simplicity that creates space. Space; pure space, masses and energies, light and the constant speed of light, which I explained before on my page why it is constant. Relative velocities between masses and energies. Gravitational fields caused by energy. Centrifugal force (Circular movements) that balances this gravitational field. And a time created with equal amount of Energy, which is the result of the ‘Time Flow’=’Time’/’Energy’ Formula. These are the main elements of space. All other physical processes are the result of these main elements.

    Newton’s law of inertia can no longer be valid due to the friction caused by the ether of an object moving in space. The object slows down and eventually stops.

    Thanks again