Member Ken
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Kasim,
You inquired: ”
What do you think? Do we need forces to compress rods to shorter lengths.”I will answer, not by rods, but by describing wave fronts in the “fixed” frame and the “moving” frame as described by two space-time warp examples at the following link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zY0GZ1FCfzBwJVyYvsrx_4cYZJenZTr_/view
SRT describes the space-time warp of a wave front from a moving source as an ellipse (see image 2) and as a circle from a fixed source (see image 1). The major axis of the ellipse is the same as the diameter of the circle, but the minor axis of the ellipse is contracted in its direction of motion according to the Lorentz factor. The theory then is that the spacecraft inside the ellipse is also contracted in its direction of motion due to the space-time warp and not due to the force of its movement inside an aether. CNPS members unlike USA university students can believe what we choose due to our freedom of will. Thus, we can believe the space-time warp is described by two circular cross sections as described in image 3 or any other scenario that we want including an aether wind (i.e. “a force”) that causes a warp in the moving wave front. I will intertain any proposition, but will not necessarily accept it as a reality.
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Kasim,
You stated:
“But I’ll tell you what I think is science fiction: the allegation that the speed of light is the same for all observers irrespective of their state of motion. If it were true, then the qualifier ‘in a vacuum’ is not necessary because it implies that the speed of light is variable everywhere else, which it is.”
I believe you answered your own question. If the speed of light is not measured as the same value in all inertial frames then my openion is that the clock rate would be different from the ageing rate. However, I believe “in a vacuum” is necessary because it is known that the speed of light is measured differently in different environments such as a “vacuum” vs an inert gas, or a liquid.
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Kasim.
Correction to my last post:
if your velocity (v’) = 0.866 c then for each second you travel a distance you measure as 0.866 * 300,000 km’ a stay-at-home un-accelerated light clock will tick twice while you have Traveled 0.866 * 600,000 km at velocity (v) = 0.866 c for two seconds.
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Kasim,
Let’s assume that your clock is two mirrors that are 300,000 km’ apart moving in tandum with you and this moving light clock tick rate is 1 tick per second’. In this scenario, if your velocity (v’) = 0.866 c then for each second you travel a distance you measure as 300,000 km’ a stay-at-home un-accelerated light clock will tick twice while you have Traveled 600,000 km at velocity (v) = 0.866 c for two seconds.
If you believe this story is not science fiction, then do you believe the stay-at-home clock “ages” twice as fast as your clock or just “ticks” twice as fast as your clock in each of the following “What If: ____?” cases.
(1) What If: you measure the velocity of your light clock’s light as 300,000 km’/sec.
(2) What If: you think you will measure the velocity of your light clock’s light as something other than 300,000 km’/sec.
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David,
You stated: “Lorentz developed his Aether theory based on the physical experiments of Michelson and Morley. Albert Einstein produced an hypothetical postulate involving non-physical reference frames based on thought experiments. Where are the physical physics in Albert Einstein’s Special Relativity theory?”
I do not know what you mean by: “where is the physical physics in SRT?”
SRT has three basic equations that were derived from the MM Experiment (MME):
(1) The Tau equation for Transverse Time Dilation: (τ) = t’ = t / β = t / (1 / (1 – (v/c)^2)^0.5) where the Time Ratio t / t’ = 1 / (1 – (v/c)^2)^0.5 = β only when ∠Ꜫ of both MME arms = 90° (time dilation with no simultaneity calibration).
(2) The Longitudinal Tau equation: (τ) = t / t’ = β * (t – v * xs/c^2) where xs is the x coordinate of a moving point at the end of a Send transmission to the end of the contracted MME arm that applies only when ∠Ꜫ of the contracted MME arm = 0° or 180° (Longitudinal time dilation with a simultaneity calibration).
(3) The Longitudinal Length contraction equation: Where the Length Ratio of the verticle MME arm (l) and the horizontal MME arm (l’) = l / l’ = 1 / (1 – (v/c)^2)^0.5 = β only when ∠Ꜫ of the horizontal MME arm = 0 or 180°.
I submit these three equations as “the physical physics in Albert Einstein’s Special Relativity theory.”
I have not seen the “physical physics” equations in your Aether Theory. I need to see the equations you have that predict time dilation or length contraction that you believe will yield more reliable predictions than at least one of the three SRT equations listed above.
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Kasim,
I agree 😀! While being accelerated: “the clock runs slower and slower with each passing second; but will carry on at the rate it achieved when the acceleration is stopped.” Thus, time dilation occurs during acceleration from any “home” frame and not during uniform velocity in the “home” frame; but will continue to retain the same velocity and clock rate that it had attained when under acceleration until there is another acceleration of the clock.
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Correction to last paragraph of my last post:
I have a totally different and simple intrinsic model that expresses the deflection angle “in Newtonian type physics equations”, i.e. in polar coordinates (radians and degrees subtended by lengths in km) as well as in cartesian geometry (x,y,z coordinates in km) without assuming “curvatures in space”.
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David,
You are long-winded! I will try to briefly respond to some of your quotes:
“The postulates of Albert Einstein simply changed the interpretation of the Lorentz transformations from an Aether drift to an interpretation of time drift (time dilation).”
It is clear to me that Einstein accepted the Lorentz length transformation theory that “a moving meter stick contracts along the direction of its velocity vector (v) according to the Lorentz factor (γ) = 1 / (1 – (v/c)^2)^0.5″ where the contracted Length (L) = Lo/γ.” And, it is clear to me that this is where Einstein made his biggest mistake. The moving meter stick must contract more than (L) = Lo/γ in its direction of motion! Furthermore, Einsteins “interpretation of time drift (time dilation)” was simply derived from his length contraction function, where the time and length transformations were both determined by the Lorentz factor. Thus the shortened time (T) = To/γ. This assumption by Einstein was also wrong because it is only valid when the meter stick moves perpendicular to its direction of motion.
You stated: “As for General Relativity theory, Albert Einstein used Riemann curvature mathematics to calculate a long and complex approximation for the circular deflection angle of photons passing near the Sun.”
I have a totally different and simple intrinsic model that expresses the deflection angle “in Newtonian type physics equations”, i.e. in polar coordinates (radians) as well as in cartesian geometry (km and degrees) without assuming “curvatures in space”.
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David D.,
You stated: “I’m interested in a physical explanation for gravity . . .”
I have a physical explanation for the functional aspects of gravity as well as velocity. These functional aspects are the same as the functional aspects of a computer’s processor (or single server) that is a functional as well as a physical reality. This explanation is that the physical server functions in such a manner that a “limit” of the physical server is expressed as (Arrival Rate) / (Service Rate) and this mathmatical function predicts the dependent variable called Utilization where 100% Utilization is a “limit” that can be approached but not reached or exceeded. Similarly, escape velocity (ve) / c and velocity (v) / c are “limits” that can approach 100% but not reach or exceed 100%.
I am much more interested in predicting the functional “effects” of escape velocity (ve) and velocity (v). There is a no more important innovative agenda for free world space force Operations Research than being able to reliably predict the functional behavior and “effects” of ve at a distance Ra from a “physical” Mass as well as the velocities (v) of targets upon the performance metrics and control of their “physical” weaponology and their “physical” space craft.
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If CNPS members would spend some time trying to understand Einstein Rings and Gravitational Mirages they may understand that they are the same thing, i.e. gravity causes both angular displacement phenomena and are predicted by the same displacement and redshift functions. Thus, if one is wrong then both are wrong! Also, both cause a redshift in the frequency of the observed ring or mirage and this redshift is accurately predicted within a small tollerance by GR. Does Dr. Dowdye have a function that accurately predicts the “observed” redshifts as well as a function that predicts the “observed” displacements that are caused by the highly volatile and non-homogeneous fluids in the corona?
However, I will relent and admit that I have not taken the time and money that it would take to verify the accuracy of these “observed” effects. Therefore, I am not a witness in the defence of GR predictions.
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Bruce,
You stated: “My paradox is for light moving at a rate slower than c in vacuum, which is routinely measured for light moving in a gas or solid.”
Trying to understand relativistic effects in an assumed “vacuum” well outside a solar system has taken me more than 20 years day, night and weekends. Fluid mechanics was the most difficult course I have ever taken. I am sure that trying to account for relativistic effects of velocity (v) or escape velocity (ve) in fluids such as in a magellanic cloud galaxy is well beyond my ken.
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David,
Thanks for the video of Dr. Dowdye’s insights. However, the video is not clear. Is he saying there is no displacement from the “true” coordinates to a star outside the corona’s halo at 2R, 3R and beyond? If he is implying that the corona is causing the measured displacement when at 1R, then has he determined the intrinsic function that precisely accounts for the rather large displacement that are “reportedly measured” for glazing starlight. Then is he also implying that those rather large displacements that are “reportedly measured” at 2R and beyond are simply “fake news” for the benefit of mainstream group think. Why then does he not also believe the displacement of glazing starlight is “fake news” unless he has determined the function that precisely accounts for the “reportedly measured” affects of the corona? If he has determined that precise and reliable function I hope that CNPS members will have free access to it.
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Bruce,
You stated: “Consider the case where the speed of light is infinite. Then length contraction disappears.”
I would restate this as: Light speed c (approximately 300 x 10^6 m/s) in a vaccum is a “limit”. Just as in a single server computer the limit of the server’s ability to service transactions can be determined by the mean Ghz consumption of each transaction times the number of transactions (Arrival Rate) processed during a steady state elapsed time (T). Also, the server cannot process more transactions than the number that will consume the Ghz rating (Service Rate) of the server’s processor. The “limit” for a server is called 100% Utilization and is defined as “Arrival Rate” / “Service Rate” and as 100% is approached the “Queue Length” of transactions awaiting to be serviced approaches infinity. Thus, since Light Speed c (approximately 300 x 10^6 m/s) is a “limit” that can be approached “but never exceeded” in all inertial frames then the length Lo of the spaceship as “measured” by the Traveler is always Lo but the distance that the space ship has traveled (L) as well as the elapsed time in the “stationary” frame (T) are both dilated (made longer) relative to Lo and To similar to the server’s queue length and response time that approach infinity. These connections of heuristic significance is why I believe “Relativity is a Queuing System”.
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David.
If gravity does not bend light how do you explain the Einstein Rings? Also, the Astronomical Almanac provides precise coordinates (within 0.001 arcsec.) that astronomers use to locate and identify named stars based upon calibrations for gravitational mirage as well as stellar aberration. These calibrations are derived from sources such as the NOVAS software that predicts angular displacements of more than 0.1 arcsec at distance from the sun that are ten times the sun’s radius. This predicted displacement is large and must be accounted for by some other phenomenon if not by a gravitational mirage.
Finally, I do not intend to judge the reliability of other’s models predictions. However, I would like to know if any such models are advanced enough to make predictions that will account for the observed large displacements from the “true” coordinates of stars. I am even more interested to know if their predictions that are different from those of SRT or GRT are close to my own predictions that are significantly different than SRT and GRT predictions. I consider that if such agreement can be found among “any of our” models that are outside the mainstream would be something that CNPS would want to celebrate.
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John, Bruce & David,
If you guys have models, I challenge you to use them to make a prediction, just one, that is different from that of a specific function (i.e a predictive equation) of SRT or GRT. Please provide the SRT or GRT predictive equation as well as your model’s predictive equation for the same relativistic effect.
If you would make just one such prediction, I will spend some time to consider the valadity and reliability of your models.